Mark's had a tough couple of weeks, and he's boiling mad (almost literally). Bryan debuts his super evil new voice which hurts after a few minutes. We talk about disappearing cat poop, tulpas, aliens, and movies.

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This week features visual artist and graphic novelist Natalie McKean! We talk art, origins and the fascinating reasons Natalie creates "metaphysical sci-fi". Prepare to follow us through some strange and unexpected wormholes as we get into the nature of reality and creativity!

Find Natalie here:
nataliemckeanart.com (art)
somniacity.com (merchandise/products)
instagram

Intro music by Jean Baudin. Find his work at jeanbaudin.com.
Interviews and art by Monstark. Find his podcasts, art and products at monstark.com.
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